First Navy Flag = Liberty Tree Flag, or"Appeal to Heaven" Flag, orWashington Cruisers Flag: Fwd: Congressional Medal of Honor to Paul Tobin, lessons for today's Navy from History // Navy Birthday Present??

Wednesday, October 11, 2006

Fwd: Congressional Medal of Honor to Paul Tobin, lessons for today's Navy from History // Navy Birthday Present??

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From: James Renwick Manship <George@WashingtonLIVES.us>
Date: October 11, 2006 11:35:21 AM EDT
To: RADM Paul Tobin <paul.tobin@navy.mil>
Subject: Fwd: Congressional Medal of Honor to Paul Tobin, lessons for today's Navy from History // Navy Birthday Present??

Dear Admiral Tobin,

As I reviewed by just transmitted email, I see I failed to mention the historical research foremost in the debunking of the myth of the Fake Snake Flag, written by Peter Ansoff, that was published in 2004 in Raven, the journal of the "flag experts".

Then again there is the book published in 1995 by the U. S. Naval Institute, as mentioned below:
Point Paper on Why Yes to Liberty Tree Navy Flag, Why NO to Snake flag
31 Dec 2005

Discussion: The United States Naval Institute Press in 1995 published a book written by Chester G. Hearn titled George Washington’s Schooners (LoC#E271.H43 1995). On page 5, quoted are the orders of the Continental Congress to George Washington...

Back in the Bicentennial days, the well meaning but sadly misinformed crew of officers led by CAPT Brayton Harris with CDR Eric Berryman, did not have the benefit of the 1976 Fowler book, the 1995 Hearn book, or the 2004 Ansoff article.

So, sir, "Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country..."

For America's future (building up on our past),

James Renwick Manship, Sr.
Director, FirstNavyFlag.US
SeaManship@FirstNavyFlag.US
LCDR, USNR

Begin forwarded message:

From: James Renwick Manship <George@WashingtonLIVES.us>
Date: October 11, 2006 11:22:47 AM EDT
To: "Tobin, Paul E RADM USN((Ret)) Naval Historical Center, Director" <paul.tobin@navy.mil>
Subject: Re: Congressional Medal of Honor to Paul Tobin, lessons for today's Navy from History // Navy Birthday Present??

Dear Admiral Tobin,

Thank you for your reply.

I am glad to see we are in agreement, to a substantial degree.

My position is that as officers commissioned by Congress, we are leaders of the Navy, not followers of whim or whimsy, and as leaders we have a duty to do what is right, not that which is popular, however popular the current Navy Jack flag may be, it is flying due to historical lack of awareness of the truth.

So the logical corollary is that how ever popular the Fake Snake Navy Jack Flag may be, it is our duty to remove it if it is false, which is amply demonstrated it is "fake" by historical research by men such as Fowler in 1976, Clark in 1960, and RADM Preble in 1880.

I would with pleasure join with you and Ambassador Middendorf to write a letter to the Secretary of the Navy asking for a return to the Union Jack.

I would prefer to compose the letter to suggest to Secretary Winter to pose the option of selecting the Tree of Liberty Navy Flag, or return to the Union Jack.

Might we agree to compose this letter right away, before this years Navy Birthday, so to be a birthday gift of Truth to our beloved best Navy in the world?

For America's future (building up on our past),

James Renwick Manship, Sr.
Director, FirstNavyFlag.US
LCDR, USNR

On Oct 11, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Tobin, Paul E RADM USN((Ret)) Naval Historical Center, Director wrote:

James, Good research on your part. Alas, he is no relation but must
surely be the most famous Navy Paul Tobin.

As I've always said, your research on the Flag is accurate. My view is
that the Navy likes the current flag and would not entertain a move to
change it at this time. I'd eventually like to see us go back to the
Union Jack.

Best, Paul Tobin

-----Original Message-----
From: James Renwick Manship [mailto:George@WashingtonLIVES.us]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 8:07
To: Tobin, Paul E RADM USN(Ret) Naval Historical Center, Director
Subject: Congressional Medal of Honor to Paul Tobin, lessons for today's
Navy from History

Dear Admiral Tobin,

The attached Navy letter with imbedded images of the 1872 Congressional
Medal of Honor to Paul Tobin, and a description of a book by your
predecessor, RADM Preble.

I will be interested to see your response.

V/R, James Renwick Manship, (once upon a time, seemingly long, long ago,
LCDR, USNR -- keep smiling!)

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"Captain" AND Commander - in - Chief George Washington

The orders of the Continental Congress to George Washington, on page 5, are quoted:
“to command all the continental forces raised, or to be raised, for the defense of American liberty.”

“If the British could not be driven out of Boston, perhaps they could be starved out, which meant stopping their flow of supplies. But Washington had a more immediate problem – an urgent need to equip a threadbare army…” writes author Chester Hearn, on page 7.

“What Washington needed was a navy, but there was none, and the Continental Congress doubted if one would be needed.” on page 3 are some well worded phrases.

Later on the orders continue, “all particulars cannot be foreseen, nor positive instructions for such emergencies so beforehand given…many things must be left to your prudent and discreet management, as occurrences may arise.”

“Washington wanted a few fast vessels… And he wanted his schooners mobilized without delay.

As Congress labored in chambers, debating the practicality of creating and financing a navy, the general decided the matter for them.

He pressed his schooners to sea in the fall of 1775, and prizes began to flow.”

Washington wrote reflectively, “A fortunate capture of an ordnance ship would give new life to the camp, and an immediate turn to the issue of this campaign.” page 7 from the book
"George Washington’s Schooners"
published by The United States Naval Institute Press in 1995
written by Chester G. Hearn (LoC#E271.H43 1995).

Flag Expert Dr. Whitney Smith says:

In the definitive article debunking the "Fake Snake" flag written by president Peter Ansoff in the RAVEN, the journal of NAVA (association of flag experts), scholar Ansoff writes on Page 20:
Dr. Whitney Smith, founder and director of the Flag Research Center, has said of Admiral Preble’s work:
“…Original research is time-consuming and demanding and it’s easy to assume
that published sources are correct and can be trusted.

Those who have written books and articles or have created web sites about American flags have for the most part relied on work done by Preble.

As a result there is a constant repetition of misinformation that gives certain designs the impression of accuracy.”

And note: Admiral Preble TRIED to correct an error from 1872 to 1880, by removing his text about the "Fake Snake" Navy Flag, but due to expense, the book publisher used the old color plate and thereby perpetuated the myth of the "Don't Tread on Me" "Fake Snake" Flag.

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